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Showing posts with label Cirrus SR22. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Cirrus SR22. Show all posts
Saturday, June 18, 2016
Wednesday, September 3, 2014
Cirrus SR22 Fuel Level Retrofit
Feedback on the the CiES system....
While my aircraft (NA G3 #3813 Perspective) was at Leading Edge Aviation in Tampa for an annual, I had the CiES digital fuel system installed. The crew at LEA had recently received the benefit of Scott Philben's tutelage on the intricacies of this installation, and I was in line next for the retrofit. Two points of observation:
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1 - Fuel quantities are now precise and crisp. No longer do I tend to disbelieve fuel gauge indications because of erratic needles.
Now there is no "negotiating" with myself of how much fuel I probably have. The installation includes calibration at 2 gallon intervals from "Zero Fuel" empty to full. In my opinion, the replacement round gauge on the center panel is superior to the Perspective MFD indication. Fuel quantity and balance is abundantly clear.
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Contact Steve Miller if you want this job done properly.

Finally, thank you Scott Philben for extending the OSH incentive, motivating me to get this system in my airplane. After seeing the results, I think the discount I received should more appropriately have been a premium paid to you.
Friday, March 21, 2014
Flying Magazine - May 2013
Flying Magazine
Well we have been waiting for this -
Recognition in the press or an editorial resulting from a flight utilizing our fuel level sending technology.
When reading about all the very significant changes made for the new 2013 G5 Cirrus. You will see the mention of accurate fuel level - not once but three times.
In this aircraft review there is an discussion about the fuel imbalance messages being determined by fuel level.
Not the Fuel Totalizer - the Fuel Level System
If you pay close attention - the differential they are talking about is an accurate reading of a level of fuel at 8, 10 gallons between the two wing tanks and then at 12 gallons.
Yes -- our senders give levels of accuracy in the 46 gallon tank of less than two gallons.
Again in the side bar - a mention of not just accurate - but highly accurate fuel level.
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Imagine an editorial in General Aviation magazine - praising the quality of the fuel indication.
Not Fuel Totalizer -The Fuel gauges
And finally in the specification banner another mention of the electronic fuel level sending units.
While we strive every day to change fuel level sending in aviation with better technology, quality assembly
and attention to detail
We are very proud that our efforts are being recognized
Sunday, February 23, 2014
CiES Fuel Sender - In the News - March 2014 Aviation Consumer
In the March 2014 Issue of Aviation Consumer the CiES Cirrus Fuel System Retrofit is reviewed.
As we have talked about in previous blog posts - Cirrus G1 / G2 retrofits are a challenge. The results and review were favorable and represent what can be obtained on the early series aircraft. Later model Cirrus G3's can achieve nearly perfect results.
Please look to
for more information and other informative articles
Thursday, October 31, 2013
A Tale of Two Aircraft or Adventures in Aviation Fuel Level
Opportunity

So we jumped feet first in retrofitting early Cirrus Aircraft. The first indication we had that something was amiss was from a retrofit owner, he reported that the system looked good, but no comment on the accuracy of fuel level information. This report stood in stark contrast to our experience on the retrofitted G3 and new G5 aircraft where fuel level reporting was deemed to be a notable highlight. We had another customer install - same result - Gee it looks great, but no comment on accuracy in reporting. I had heard about issues with the original G1 / G2 fuel level, but I attributed them to the potentiometer technology used to report fuel level.
We still felt we had the best system out there and we sold one more G1/G2 kit. This owner was not so blasé about the accuracy - he noted and documented where the system was showing inaccuracies over his fuel totalizer system. We had his calibration data from the Cirrus Service Center and his report that he lost 5 gallons every time he switched tanks. We were confused - our system seemed to be able to leap tall buildings and burn through steel - inaccuracy in reporting was not something we had seen in the several years it took to develop our fuel level sensor.
Discovery

The Smoking Gun

So with fuel being drawn out of the inbd tank the level in that tank must go down 1/4 inch. Well was this true in the aircraft - we had reports for our system and the prior vendors loosing 5 gallons when that wing tank was selected. We knew that it was consistent - if you depress the outbd sensor - the change is progressively smaller and not uniform. Depressing the inbd sensor invariably gave a 5 gallon decrease each and every time, as long as some amount of measurable fuel was present in the main tank. We asked the question "Could this tank level be effected by fuel pump suction" So we modeled the system confirmed it with a little computational fluid dynamics, Sure enough 5 gallons

How Do We Fix It.


First and foremost the float has to float Second as the float swings through an arc it goes from most sensitive at about 45 degrees above horizontal -- to least sensitive
at horizontal -- back again to more sensitive again at 45 degrees below horizontal -
This is a typical Sine function for those who remember trignometry - and this is especially true for float sensors, as increasing fuel is the measured as the sine of the angle the float makes with the measurement system. So these subtle bends in legacy fuel senders were making use of this fact to optimize their reporting capability.
We what if we bent the arms in a similar manner - could we can get the same result, a fuel level output biased to be more and less sensitive as required. We had not crossed that idea, as our patented sensor system had a 180 degree travel limitation and 1000's of arc data points. The CiES fuel quantity system due to the ability to render small changes into a discrete output, accuracy due to geometry was not needed. Given that - could we utilize geometry for a similar but opposite benefit - could we make the inbd unit less sensitive at the top of the collector tank and mask the small change brought about by fuel being sucked into the engine. Time to run a few numbers. It worked on the spreadsheet - worked being a relative term - it is less sensitive to change at the top of the tank, so out of a 5 gallon change we were now at 3 gallons - not quite good enough. OK this logic seems to offer some potential - what if we made the main outbd tank sensor more sensitive, trying to capture a subtlety in level. Well in this combination, less sensitive collector and more sensitive main tank got down to just under the magic 2 gallon change.
Testing
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Initial CiES Installation |

The Graph at the right shows the before condition of the aircraft. You can see that the aircraft is in climb as both sensors are below the totalizer. On the G1/G2 aircraft the senders run for/aft - this tends to accentuate the discrepancy as the senders are real excellent angle indicators.
Notice that the right tank is nearly identical - gauge and totalizer prior to the update. However the left tank shows a combination of fuel level error caused by the fuel draw and induced by climb. I suspect that the fuel flapper valve in the left collector tank is sticky or there is a constriction in the line.
Conclusion
Well we are waiting for a cross country flight to get a real assesment - However preliminary flights and taxi tests demonstrated that the results did carry over to the aircraft. But as in all things aviation - you really want to see how this performs in the field.
First Report - Owner has flown the aircraft down to 20 gallons a side -- the system is accurate and it matches the fuel remaining on the owners dip stick. The fuel level change is in the range of 1 gallon when the tank is selected.
First Report - Owner has flown the aircraft down to 20 gallons a side -- the system is accurate and it matches the fuel remaining on the owners dip stick. The fuel level change is in the range of 1 gallon when the tank is selected.

Talk with us - let us know the problems you might be experiencing in fuel level reporting - whether you have an Aircraft, Boat, RV, Truck -
We solve problems with fuel level -
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Friday, March 22, 2013
Cirrus SR22 Avidyne G2 and 6 Pack Retrofit
We are installing the first Cirrus SR22 G2 (And G1) Retrofit sender at Professional Air In Bend, Oregon.
The new sender designs were patterned after the existing unit in the aircraft.
The new sensor utilizes our patented technology found in the latest generation Cirrus aircraft. Additionally our sensor did not require the steady bracket seen in the upper left.
If you ever have to remove a sensor to replace a gasket for example. The access panel will not have to be opened.
We expect to have the aircraft buttoned up early next week and ready for calibration.
Working hard to rapidly grow our customer base.
The new sender designs were patterned after the existing unit in the aircraft.
The new sensor utilizes our patented technology found in the latest generation Cirrus aircraft. Additionally our sensor did not require the steady bracket seen in the upper left.
We expect to have the aircraft buttoned up early next week and ready for calibration.
Working hard to rapidly grow our customer base.

Thursday, March 7, 2013
Overnight - The world of aviation fuel level measurement changed
Just like the classic instrument six pack.
Seemingly while you weren't looking - The days of simple capacitive and resistive fuel senders disappeared and were relegated to history.
You need only to look at the parts manuals for the latest Cirrus SR20, SR22 or Cessna 172, 182 & 206 single engine aircraft. Take a real close look and you will see terms like AMR and TDR (Anisotropic Magneto Resistive & Time Domain Reflectometry). And instead of a voltage or resistance output to be checked in the maintenance manual - you will see terms like CANBUS and Digital Frequency.
So what changed ...... well quite a lot ...... the digital age hit fuel level.
- First ---- The FAA requires there to be working fuel gauges in aircraft.
Fuel gauges that are accurate throughout the range. Yes the FAA really wants accurate gauges in the aircraft not just at "Empty"
- The FAA in their regulations makes that clear -
- The pilot is required by Part 91.205 to have working fuel gauges
- The definition of working is: Provide accurate fuel level through the tank range.
- The aircraft manufacturer is required by Parts 23.963, 23.1305, 23.1337, 23.1555 to provide working fuel gauges.
- These regulations very clearly indicate that the installed fuel gauges must give accurate fuel level through the whole tank range.
- Note: Some of these requirements were recently revised.
- Second ----- The rate of fuel starvation events remained unchanged.
- 2 to 3 per week in the US
For a long time, excuses have been made for fuel level reporting systems in General Aviation aircraft.
General aviation fuel gauges were (insert your own adjective) bad, pilots didn't trust them and pilots did not rely on the information they provided. Plain and Simple
Uncharacteristically, the FAA turned a blind eye to the fuel level regulations they provided, tacitly acknowledging in their own documents and publications, that the state of the art was not up to the task.
Uncharacteristically, the FAA turned a blind eye to the fuel level regulations they provided, tacitly acknowledging in their own documents and publications, that the state of the art was not up to the task.
Pilots sought and effectively utilized "work arounds" - pilots relied on wristwatches only and aircraft manufacturers and avionic shops installed or incorporated fuel totalizer equipment in the aircraft.
Contrary to popular belief totalizers are not required equipment. but they will give pilots confidence in their fuel level. They have proven to be accurate while in flight and provide a reliable cross check of the wristwatch fuel calculations at any time. You will find a fuel totalizer or range graph is on virtually every piece of modern avionic equipment.
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Iphone App showing fuel level |
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Fuel leaking from an aircraft fuel pump |
The posting on the web (pictured right) of illustrates succinctly the common complacency of having accurate gauges in the cockpit. The particular pilot shows his "trusted" iPhone App illustrating a half tank - this app standing in stark contrast to the values depicted on the aircraft fuel gauge.
So why did the FAA really want working fuel gauges in the aircraft.
You would believe that somewhere in the digital age and the era of MFD avionics, the simple fuel gauge would be relegated to the trash heap.
Nothing but an actual working fuel gauge .... can tell you exactly what you actually have onboard the aircraft.
Case in point --- Fuel leaks at a pump are one of the hazards a working gauge will detect.
You would believe that somewhere in the digital age and the era of MFD avionics, the simple fuel gauge would be relegated to the trash heap.
However
--- No Pilot Calculation --
--- No Totalizer ----
--- No Stop Watch ----
--- No Range Map ----
Only a working aircraft fuel gauge will let you know what you have in your tank and modern technology can give you that information .
Welcome to the digital age in fuel level reporting
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Sunday, March 3, 2013
Cirrus Retrofit Update
CIRRUS AIRCRAFT RETROFIT
Cirrus Fuel Level retrofits are now occurring throughout the world.
Wells Aircraft in Hutchinson Kansas was the latest

Wells Aircraft Website

This illustration shows the new CIES Fuel level
sensor on the Left and the replaced sensor on the Right. Notice the increased area for fuel sealing on the new design, the smaller float and sealed Circular connector with gold plated pins. The quality improvement is evident.
Here is a close up of the Engine page on the MFD in the Cirrus Aircraft. This gives you the view of how the fuel level is depicted on the screen immediately adjacent to the Fuel Total

This illustration shows you confirmation of the fuel level remaining in the tanks as well as the fuel burned during the flight. Given that you inputted the initial amount correctly they should match throughout the flight.
A closer view of the MFD depiction
This shows how well the new gauge integrates to the cockpit center console. Notice that it gives you the same information as the Perspective MFD and also gives a numeric value for fuel. If you exceed the manufacturers POH fuel imbalance the more full tank will turn yellow and flash to indicate the tank you should now select. Simple
Another view of the Cockpit installation on the aircraft. Notice even how well we matched the black anodizing on the instrument. Attention to detail does not end at accurate representation of fuel level.
Here we show the map view on the MFD with fuel level on the left side of the Perspective Screen
A closer view of the fuel level displayed on the aircraft
Monday, February 25, 2013
Resistance is Futile
When you are talking about Fuel Level.
When we designed our new digital fuel level sender we gave a lot of thought on how to interface with older aircraft systems. The question was:
Could we produce an resistance output to mimic an existing resistance fuel level reporting system.
There would be a few clear benefits:- We could interface with many more legacy aircraft
- Incorporation of our system in aircraft already using resistance based sending would be easier.
- Aircraft have long wiring runs
- There are multiple sensors and connections
- The connections needed to be ordered to produce a series for multiple sensors
- There were other connections in the aircraft - bad connections produced resistance
- There were multitudes of different resistance values even for the same aircraft
- There were amplifiers in some aircraft to address the issues above
- The wire run was subject to aircraft vibration
- The gauge quality and accuracy in legacy aircraft was - not ideal
- All they needed was an Ohmmeter.
- We had heard stories of Cessna 210 Centurion and Cessna Twin Aircraft with the dreaded Cessna breakout box to tune and diagnose the capacitive system.
We found that Digital Frequency gave us clarity for fuel level information over all the known wiring challenges - corroded contacts, poor splices and induced signals. More importantly it gave us a good signal or nothing - induced errors did not conspire to give bad fuel level.
What seemed more natural is that the signal was similar to that used by the fuel flow transducer. It seemed a natural - and we could read the read and diagnose the signal on a DMM.
When we sat down after months of delivering a fuel level sending product that had zero issues and was easy to diagnose. ---
We had come to realized that we had found the best method for reporting fuel level on the aircraft and a communication standard for any application we applied our product to
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Tuesday, February 12, 2013
General Aviation News - Press Release
Accurate fuel gauges for aftermarket Cirrus
REDMOND, Ore. – Pilots are taught from an early age to not trust their fuel gauges. Cies Inc. wants to change that with its TSO’d fuel senders. The Digital Fuel Level System is now available as a retrofit on the Cirrus-line of aircraft (SR20, SR22, SR22TN and SR22T).
The system will measure fuel volume within 3% at all levels, within 1% when fuel volume is less than 50% and display the data on an Aerospace Logic or J.P. Instruments gauge.
“I love having the fuel flow quantity on the MFD like the new 2013 Cirrus Aircraft,” said David McGregor, Cirrus SR22 owner. “But the icing on the cake is the redundancy with the new Aerospace Logic fuel gauge that sits next to the fuel selector.”
Cies is working to expand the number of aircraft models, both certified and experiment, the Digital Fuel Level System will work with. The system costs $3,000 plus 16-18 hours of installation labor.
More information from Cies at 541-977-1043.
More news coming soon
More news coming soon
Tuesday, February 5, 2013
CIES Has New European Installation Centre
CiES Inc is proud to have RGV Aviation
join our list of Installation Centers. They are excited to be able to offer their Cirrus customers the new CiES Fuel Level retrofit for SR22T, SR22TN, SR22 & SR20 Aircraft.
This modification brings legacy Cirrus Aircraft the benefit of the new factory Gen 5 digital fuel level sensor solution.
RGV - A Cirrus Platinum Service Center - Based at Gloucestershire Airport (EGBJ), is a family run Aircraft and Avionics maintenance business established in 1973. As an established EASA Part 145, FAA Repair Station with EASA Subpart G and Irish Aviation Authority Subpart G approval, they have the ability and capability to support you and your aircraft, regardless of your requirements.
CiES - A design and manufacturing business to incorporated to redefine the measurement of fuel. CiES patented technology for measuring fuel is intrinsically safe - Non contact, highly accurate and has proven itself reliable under the harshest conditions. We brought accurate fuel level to aviation
join our list of Installation Centers. They are excited to be able to offer their Cirrus customers the new CiES Fuel Level retrofit for SR22T, SR22TN, SR22 & SR20 Aircraft.
This modification brings legacy Cirrus Aircraft the benefit of the new factory Gen 5 digital fuel level sensor solution.
RGV - A Cirrus Platinum Service Center - Based at Gloucestershire Airport (EGBJ), is a family run Aircraft and Avionics maintenance business established in 1973. As an established EASA Part 145, FAA Repair Station with EASA Subpart G and Irish Aviation Authority Subpart G approval, they have the ability and capability to support you and your aircraft, regardless of your requirements.
CiES - A design and manufacturing business to incorporated to redefine the measurement of fuel. CiES patented technology for measuring fuel is intrinsically safe - Non contact, highly accurate and has proven itself reliable under the harshest conditions. We brought accurate fuel level to aviation
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